Rob Rice Newsletter 2014/3


FROM THE DESK OF ROB RICE-p3Every other month I will be writing a column to keep you informed of what is going on at San Vicente Mobile Home Park.

I want to thank all who participated in the Meet and Confer meetings held at the Clubhouse on March 12th. It was a pleasure to see you and meet many of our new residents, hear your questions and understand your concerns. It is with open communication between homeowners, management and the park owners that we can eliminate misinformation and rectify issues that may rise to the surface.

For residents who were unable to attend the Meet and Confer meetings, please note that we are not moving forward with the revised rules, but returning to the signed rules and regulations of September 2006. We will be amending a few items of importance from the existing Rules and Regulations in the next few months.

Several requests for additional parking spaces were suggested. We will be adding a few spaces by the clubhouse this summer and Miguel has already installed a light in the keypad at the back gate to more easily read the keypad numbers at night.

For some residents, water pressure was a concern and we have contacted Laurence Price to review the spaces that seem to have low water pressure and solve this issue as soon as possible.

As you are aware the land lease with the Sisters of Charity at St. Vincent’s next door expires in July of 2017. We will start negotiations with the sisters in early 2015, and I will be keeping you updated with the progress of the negotiations.

Please join me in thanking the San Vicente HOA for their tireless efforts to help create the survey questions that will be distributed soon. Your HOA is great source for gaining information regarding the park. The beautiful web-site created by John Wiley is another way to stay informed on issues and events here at San Vicente:

Any questions, comments or concerns can be addressed to me at the park office or to my E-mail at:

Rob Rice


From Rob Rice: Notes

Below are the notes Rob Rice used during the three informational meetings he held at the SV Clubhouse 3/12/2014. He has kindly provided these brief notes at our request in the hope that they may be helpful for those who were unable to attend. Like the meeting, his notes include clarifications on some key points in the initial proposed Rules changes; there is mention of the lease renewal process; and there is a Q&A section responding to selected questions he received from homeowners. Here then are the notes:



Park to remain a 55+ Park.



Only 2 occupants per home, with a third ONLY as a caregiver



All current homeowner’s will be Grandfathered to remain with the 2006 R&R policy on rentals.

Possible to change to all new homeowners NOT be allowed to rent, unless due to health situations as specified in MRL.



The streets in San Vicente are wide enough for adequate vehicle passage and parking. On street parking is allowed by residents and guests for home maintenance and convenience. Residents may park their motorhomes and trailers on the street in front of their mobile home for up to 90 minutes for loading and unloading only. Motorhomes may not be left unattended when parked on street for this purpose. Overnight parking on streets after 12:00 P.M. is prohibited. Sleeping in vehicles is prohibited.

PROPERTY LEASE UPDATE: Meetings to begin with The St. Vincent’s Sisters in 2015 to determine if the lease will be extended or if the Sister’s will take over the property in July 2017. Always to be a mobile home park.

We would like a Survey to be conducted by the SV HOA to get a true consensus of various issues pertaining to homeowner’s at San Vicente.

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1. If you sell your home in the park, could you remove and take with you plantings that you installed (Special Rose Bush or cactus) ?

Yes, as long as you let your realtor/buyer know and that it is added to the sales agreement.

2. Are there setbacks standards on all sides of the mobile home?

Yes, County Code enforces these setbacks

3. Can live-in caregiver’s use the recreational facilities unaccompanied by resident?


4. Can the tenant (Roommate) of a homeowner be permitted to use recreational facilities unaccompanied?

Yes, all roommates must be registered with management.

5. There are about 8 homes in the park that have been sitting empty for years, they are generally the roughest looking and overgrown properties in the park. Can something be done with these properties?

Yes, management will be more pro-active in reviewing each property and notifying the homeowner of necessary repairs or maintenance.

6. Why can’t Dog owners responsibly walk their dogs through the park, including common areas?

If a consensus of park residents feel this way, we can make the change. To be part of HOA Survey.

7. Shed Size 100 SQ. FT. or 120 SQ.FT.?

Shed size is a typo, it is 120 Square Feet, and the height can go higher if it is under the carport, and the carport is higher than 10 feet.

8. Who determines who has “Junky Yards”? Should other residents advise management.

Notify management by dropping a note thru the office door or use the suggestion Box for the HOA.


9. Why not let homeowner’s wash down their driveways once a month? Sweeping does not get the job done.

Under the current water shortage, I would say NO, but once this shortage is eased, I see no problem with this change. Re-address after drought.


10. When you have room in a carport why not have a Cab-over Camper? Would be helpful if you had to evacuate.

Carports are designated for two cars and we have a RV Lots of others.


11. Can’t Grandchildren stay with residents for Holiday’s even if they are not 45?

Yes, any age guest is allowed to stay no longer that a cumulative 30 days in any twelve month period.


12. Does anyone ever check to be sure that live-in care is being given? Is this 24 hour care?

The office has a doctor’s letter stating that the homeowner is in need of a caregiver and to what extent they are needed. Daily or 24 hour care.


13. When are more signs and stop signs going to be installed?

We need input as to where you feel we need more signage. Another HOA Survey topic.


14. Why can park employees enter a homesite between 9 and 5 when park hours are not that range?

9 to 5 are considered regular business hours, not 7 to 3:30, unless there is a major problem, like a water break, we will always get permission from the homeowner.


15. Are their plans to provide additional guest parking spaces?

We have considered adding a few spaces up by the clubhouse. HOA Survey.


16. Can 10 MPH be painted on Gatehouse street pavement? It is a freeway!

Great Idea, YES we will add it at BOTH entry gates


17. When re-painting our home, is it necessary to get park management approval, if we are painting the home the same color?

To be reviewed by Owners and management


18. Please change garbage pick-up to Monday Household and Thursday Re-cycle?

Will add this question to the HOA Survey


19. What is the purpose of having everyone’s name on the board at the front gate? We are not comfortable having our name and address posted for anyone to use for whatever reason?

To get in gate we have a code number to dial each home, When it rings in your home you can ask who is there, and if you don’t know them you don’t open the gate.


20. The Rule #7H states minimum with for a mobilehome is 24 feet, the architectural Standards #2A state a minimum of 20 feet. Which is correct?

It is a typo, but it depends on the lot, and most lots will easily hand a 24 foot wide home.


21. What is the definition of the Park Permit DR-8T

This is the county zone code for Mobile Home Parks


22. Placing campaign signs in the window or side of the mobile home, Can you place an “A” to “H” type of sign in front yard?

California Civil Code 798.51 (e) states that you may have one sign not to exceed six square feet . 90 days prior and 15 days after an election.


23. How come “Ham” or “CB” radios or other radio transmitters may not be operated in the park?

We feel this should be revised for disaster preparedness in case cell phone usage is lost.


24. Dog Sitter ?

to be determined


25. Pets in the Clubhouse

to be in survey HOA


26. Emergency Contact: To follow up and get back to homeowner with status.

Will check with Answering Service to update


A few points from 3-12-14 meeting

Audiences at each of the 3 meetings today were concerned that we would lose Rent Control for varied reasons.  Rob Rice stated that Rent Control exists on ALL mobile home parks in SB County, and that would continue unless rent control in general in the county was eliminated.   We have Senior Park status, needing someone over 55, but that is unrelated to rent control.   A couple of people said they were getting tax assessments by the city, but Rob Rice said they needed to check that because we are in the County, and they should not be getting assessments from the city. Continue reading “A few points from 3-12-14 meeting”

7pm Mtg Pic & Numbers

Someone else took meeting notes tonight and intends to post a summary. I missed part of the meeting, but what I saw was basically a repeat of the earlier two meetings today. Here’s a pic of tonight’s group.

190525 2014/03/12 MeetingWe counted about 40 people tonight, and estimate the day’s total for all three meetings at about 175. I found all three meetings to be fun, cordial and interesting. I look forward to sharing here Rob’s notes when he sends them to me.

New Contributors

I’m happy to report that we may soon have some new contributors on this website. It’s possible that the new Newsletter being started for our community may also be published here. If so, it would still be available via postal mail (possibly in mail tubes), and via email.

If you’d like to join those willing to invest the hour or less learning to create Posts here, please add a Comment (name and email address required, and kept private) and we’ll contact you to arrange it.

Meeting Notes

At today’s 1pm meeting, a few different topics came up so we plan to also attend the 7pm meeting. Rob Rice has kindly agreed to email me the notes he used for both the 11am and 2pm meetings (and presumably also the 7pm). He agreed that it could be helpful in keeping residents informed and involved, for me to post them here on the website. Hopefully this content will eventually expand to include the Management Newsletter he mentioned starting for SVMHP.

I didn’t take any notes at the 1pm meeting, but if I have any notes from the 7pm meeting I’ll post those later.

I’m excited at the possibility that we may be starting a dialog with management, including not just some of the SMHA (Homeowner’s Association) Board but also a survey of all residents that SVMHA will help to circulate and return to the management company.

Rules Update

As you may know, there were recently new rules proposed for SVMHP. Many residents were alarmed by some of the proposed changes, and at a 10am Clubhouse meeting today Rob Rice reviewed some of the questions he’s received. There will be additional meetings today, and interested residents are strongly encouraged to attend. I hope to post a summary from Rob, but in the meantime here are a few of my personal recollections from the meeting:

1. There is no intention to change the rent control or senior citizen status of SVMHP.

2. The change allowing 45 year old residents has been rescinded.

3. The change allowing 2 residents per bedroom plus one has been changed to a limit of three per home.

4. Residents will continue to be allowed to rent out their homes.

5. There will be an extended review period during which residents may share their ideas, preferences and concerns about proposed rule changes.

Overall, we were impressed with the friendly and reassuring tone of the meeting. Especially Rob’s explicit mention of wanting to involve residents, via the Homeowner’s Association, in dialog before implementing changes to the park rules.