Meeting Notes

Here are Ellen’s notes from yesterday’s meeting. -Ed

Dear San Vicente GSMOL Members,
At yesterday’s Meet and Confer Meeting, the park owners and management agreed that the new rental agreement, rules and regulations, and architectural standards all need significant revision. They thanked us for all the questions and concerns we submitted. They will now be preparing new documents and delivering them to everyone – and the review period will start all over. They will announce another Meet and Confer Meeting.

Many rules will change for the better. Among them, the pet rules will revert back to what they were under Parker & Rice. Subletting may not be an option due to the new owner’s (Vincent’s Ministries) nonprofit status – we are still checking this. Those concerned about subletting are invited to meet with me on Tuesday, September 5th, at 6pm at the Clubhouse.

Not all concerns and questions – there were so many – were addressed at the meeting. We will be checking this. I am going to propose to the park owners that a homeowner committee participate in the revision and/or review the new documents before they are finalized this time. When the new documents come, DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING at least until you hear from us. As an existing resident, you NEVER have to sign.

Thanks so much to everyone who showed up. You were a very impressive, overflowing group of informed and justifiably concerned residents. Thanks so much to everyone who sent in questions and concerns. Your input was essential and a great gift to everyone in our community. Thanks so much to everyone who contacted neighbors, delivered notices, and joined the HOA and GSMOL. So many helping each other. Thanks especially to the GSMOL Document Review Committee and HOA Transition Committee who worked tirelessly to review the documents, and obtain legal counsel, all so important to our unity and success.

By working together, we were able to benefit our whole community in a BIG WAY!


Ellen Duke,
President, GSMOL Chapter 1316

8/30 5:30pm Meeting Update

The following email was sent to GSMOL members 8/29/17 with further details about the meeting tomorrow (5:30 PM Wednesday, Aug 30). -Ed

Dear GSMOL Members;
It’s finally here! Please remember to come to the important “Meet and Confer Meeting” at 5:30 pm at the Clubhouse. Everyone I have spoken with has concerns, so we should all be there. It makes a difference!
We do not know how the meeting will be run. It’s a good idea to bring a copy of your questions and concerns so you can keep track of what is covered and be prepared with your most important questions/concerns.
Please walk to the meeting if possible so there is more clubhouse parking for others. If you are driving, maybe you can carpool with a neighbor.
Regardless of what happens at the meeting, you do not have to sign anything (including the income disclosure form – confirmed by our attorney). We will continue to work with lawyers, park owners, and management to improve these documents.
See you at the meeting!

Ellen Duke,
President, GSMOL Chapter 1316
San Vicente Mobile Home Park

Meeting August 30, 5:30pm

The following email was sent to GSMOL members 8/26/17. Since it is of interest to all SVMHP owners, residents and HOA members we are posting it here for the information of anyone who has not yet joined GSMOL in addition to their SVMHA HOA membership. A followup email about this meeting will be published in the next post here on the website. -Ed

Dear GSMOL Members,
As some of you know, our San Vicente Homeowners Association (HOA) requested a delay in the August 30th “Meet and Confer” Meeting to allow for more time to review the documents before the meeting. The management company, J&H, refused to delay. Mr. Joffee’s response follows. He offered to meet with homeowners on a later date if there are still “important general matters of concern” after the meeting.
Remember that you never have to sign the rental agreements or rules or standards – even after the meeting. We have ten weeks (until October 13th by my calculation) before the rental agreement or recreational facilities rules would go into effect for you without signature and almost six months (until mid-February 2018) before the other rules and regulations go into effect for you without signature.
However, our attorney warns that if you sign any of these documents, they go into effect for you immediately. As an existing resident, you do not have to sign these documents, ever.

Please – you can help right now! Send or deliver all your questions and concerns in writing to management this weekend. Take them to the clubhouse or email them to:
Question any rule that you don’t like, and say why. Even if it is not a change from the old rules, it can be changed. The more people who comment/question something, the better.

At the meeting, we want to hear how management/park owners defend these rules – why they believe they are in the best interest of our park residents, as well as share our concerns.
If we are not satisfied with any result at – or following – the meeting, we will check legality and consider further action. Just because the MRL says they can do something doesn’t mean they should do it. We are paying them to work with us to keep this a nice place to live.

It is our interest to have a good relationship with management as they have great latitude in making the rules and how rules are enforced. Everyone makes mistakes – but it is very important that we help them understand the need and reasons to correct wrong rules and put pressure on them to do so. Also, please join and encourage others to join HOA and GSMOL asap. HOA especially,as it has more members. This makes us stronger!

This is just the beginning. We will have time after the meeting to continue to work on getting changes, as necessary. Our attorney is reviewing the documents. (You may want to get your own attorney, as no one can guarantee that one lawyer will catch everything.)
Thank you for helping our community through your support and involvement.

Ellen Duke,
President, GSMOL Chapter 1316,
San Vicente MHP

Email from J&H Management:

RE: New Rules and Regulations Meeting
Dear Homeowners:

I am writing you in response to your similar requests that we postpone the general homeowners meeting to discuss the new Rules and Regulations and receive comments from, and confer with, the homeowners of San Vicente Mobile Home Park about those Rules and Regulation. You each offered some very good reasons for requesting a postponement of this meeting. Regrettably, after consulting legal counsel, we have been advised not to postpone the meeting as noticed. I am sure you are aware that the Mobilehome Residency Law (MRL) dictates the procedures to be followed in the noticing requirements for the implementation of new Rules and Regulations in mobilehome parks. Any deviation in compliance with those requirements would be problematic. Therefore, it would not be wise to postpone this meeting.

One purpose of the meeting is to address some of the concerns the homeowners may have regarding the implementation and interpretation of the new rules. Hopefully, we will be successful in addressing their questions and concerns that evening. If not, we are always willing to arrange for meetings with the homeowners on all important general matters of concern.

We thank you both for your thoughtful inquiry and look forward to seeing you and the other homeowners next Wednesday.

James Joffe

Real Estate License Number 00710270

President J&H Asset Property Mgt., Inc.

P: (714) 974-0397 x103 F: (714) 283-3225

22880 Savi Ranch Pkwy.

Yorba Linda, CA 92887

7/10/2017 HOA Cancelled

Thursdays board meeting has been cancelled

We have cancelled Thursday’s board meeting.As we all know, there is nothing new to report.New Management has not sent out anything new for residents. A few exceptions are, the workout room is now closed till further notice. The explanation received is they need to inventory all equipment. The cracks around the pool deck have been marked by tape or orange paint to obviously point out the trip hazards.

Thank you for supporting your HOA

Bob Mann